Weather widget text / font issue Options

[Bobot]

The weather widget is cool, but I have 2 small font or text issues:

1 - the city name is partially covered by the weather graphic

2- the degree symbol on the current temp overlays the numbers slightly

Not complaining, just bringing issues to your attention

Here's a screen cap of the issues:

[Kurt871]

Be glad you can at least read your fonts. I can't figure out how to change mine, so I'm stuck with a bad Futura that's so scrunched together I can't see it.

[Bobot]

So do you think you need the Future TrueType fonts to install in your system to fix your problem? If so, let me know...

[Duckie]

You might have a faulty or modified version of the font. Try using Adobe's Font manager and install new versions.

My bet is you have what I have...Soulless's fonts

[Kurt871]

You might have a faulty or modified version of the font.  Try using Adobe's Font manager and install new versions.

My bet is you have what I have...Soulless's fonts

Ding ding ding. Ten points for ducky I'd try a new version, but I havn't been able to find another one on the net. I'll keep looking though. I wouldn't want anyone to get into trouble, but if any Mac users have the real Futura TTFs they'd be willing to part with...

[juno]

Ding ding ding. Ten points for ducky I'd try a new version, but I havn't been able to find another one on the net. I'll keep looking though. I wouldn't want anyone to get into trouble, but if any Mac users have the real Futura TTFs they'd be willing to part with...

Hahahah, the whole AS krew will be here soon shooting down bugs and creating widgets left and right! Wheres timmie and seph?
Futura:
http://old.soliton.net/tivo/fonts/

[Kurt871]

Thanks for the link, juno. I'll give it a try when I get home.

On the other note, you're absolutely right: I have a feeling Konfabulator.com will be Aqua-Soft's new sister site

[sipefree]

Futura:
http://old.soliton.net/tivo/fonts/

I'm pretty sure that's illegal.

[Kurt871]

Well, we won't tell if you won't.

[Dean]

I still have problems with getting Futura to run properly with Konfab.. I've actually got a legitimate copy of Futura from Bitstream, and it doesn't work (much to my annoyance) and - to try to get this working - I tried using a colleagues version of Futura from Monotype.

The thing I can't get my head around is that the font specified in the widget source code is the typeface name (eg: Arial, MS Sans Serif etc).. the style is a separate thing. For the two fonts I just mentioned, saying 'Arial', and selecting style of 'Italic' will make Windows pull out the 'Arial Italic' font. It's how CreateFont() works..

Anyhoo.. I'm going off track a bit. My point is that all the versions of Futura I've seen so far have a typeface name that includes the major part of the style (eg: Condensed). So, when Konfab looks for 'Futura', with a style of 'Condensed' it just doesn't find the font.. as there's no font with a typeface name of 'Futura'. There's one with a typeface name of 'Futura LT Condensed' or 'Futura Condensed BT' or whatever... The only way I can get anything to use Futura is to edit the registry to map 'Futura' to 'Futura Condensed BT' or similar... which isn't too great.

So, people who actually have Futura working for them..what *exact* font set is it you're using? Who's it by? And what is the typeface name (it's shown when you double-click on the font TTF file in Windows).

I've no idea what typeface name is used on the Mac.. if anyone knows, post up..

[Bobot]

At quick glance, I can't determine that the font used in the weather widget really *is* Futura. Why do we think it's Futura?

I wonder if you got TweakUI from Microsoft and used the rebuild Font Folder feature if that would do anything?

[Kurt871]

Dean: I've noticed this same thing as well. I got my Futura font working, so maybe this will help you, but maybe not. First, I removed *all* of the Futura fonts from my fonts folder. Condensed, Bold, everything. Then, I went back and looked at the fonts I just removed and picked the one that most resembled the Mac version. In my case, it's called "Futura Medium". Anyway, as soon as I installed that font, my Weather widget looked perfect. Here's the odd part, as you may have already guessed: My Weather .kon file still lists the default font as "Futura", not "Futura Medium." I'm really not sure how it knows what font to look for, because according to that it seems like it would find NO font since I have no font installed by the name of "Futura." I decided not to go investigating further as I got the font working and that was really all I wanted. Anyway, prolly not much help to you but I hope you get it working all the same.

[juno]

At quick glance, I can't determine that the font used in the weather widget really *is* Futura. Why do we think it's Futura?

I wonder if you got TweakUI from Microsoft and used the rebuild Font Folder feature if that would do anything?

Why do we think it is Futura?

CODE

<text>
 <name>degreeSym</name>
 <font>Futura, Century Gothic Bold, Franklin Gothic Medium</font>
 <size>19</size>
 <data>°</data>
 <color>#ffffff</color>
 <alignment>left</alignment>
 <hOffset>167</hOffset>
 <vOffset>69</vOffset>
</text>

That is why we KNOW it is Futura (that is out of the .kon file in The Weather)

[Dean]

Hi Kurt,

Anyway, prolly not  much help to you but I hope you get it working all the same.

Thanks for the idea.. unfortunately I've not been able to get it working using the method you described. You said you installed 'Futura Medium' only - can I ask who the font creator is? Bitstream, Monotype, Adobe, or is it a conversion (via AllType) from a Type 1 font. Filename and size would also allow me to track down your exact font, to identify whether my font is just not suitable..

Thanks again.

[Kurt871]

Futura Medium (TrueType)

Typeface name: Futura
File size: 75kb
Version: 1.1d1
© 1998 Neufville Digital

[Bobot]

Thanks for pointing this out...because it gave me an idea as to why my Trek Weather widget wasn't working. I changed all the references in my Trek Weather .kon and .js file from "Helvetica" to "Arial" and it now works! Must be a font issue on my system.

Why do we think it is Futura?

CODE

<text>
 <name>degreeSym</name>
 <font>Futura, Century Gothic Bold, Franklin Gothic Medium</font>
 <size>19</size>
 <data>°</data>
 <color>#ffffff</color>
 <alignment>left</alignment>
 <hOffset>167</hOffset>
 <vOffset>69</vOffset>
</text>

That is why we KNOW it is Futura (that is out of the .kon file in The Weather)

[Dean]

Futura Medium (TrueType)

Typeface name: Futura
File size: 75kb
Version: 1.1d1
© 1998 Neufville Digital

Ahh.. a typeface name of Futura.. that'll be why it works with that font. My Bitstream version ihas a typeface name of 'Futura Md BT'.. the Monotype version was 'Futura LT Medium'. Which is why neither of my fonts work.

Oh dear...

[Kurt871]

I also have Futura Md BT. I find it a little too bold to use in widgets, though. If you wanna PM me, I could send my Futura to you.

I really need a condensed version of Futura to use in mini Weather and mini iTunes Remote. I found one, but it's missing a degree symbol. If anyone sees one anywhere, post 'er here.

[iasandcb]

I think K should support sort of "alias" or "family" that even if there's no exact font named "Futura", K finds out a feasible alternative, for example, "Futura Md BT".

Thanks,

Ias

[Duckie]

Google is your friend